Character Weights

The following data was obtained from Kurogane Hammer. Weight is not to be confused with Floaty-ness!

RANK	CHARACTER	WEIGHT
SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT
1	Bowser	130
2	Donkey Kong	122
3	King Dedede	119
4	Charizard	116
5	Ganondorf	113
HEAVYWEIGHT
6-7	Bowser Jr.	108
6-7	Samus	108
8-9	Ike	107
8-9	Wario	107
10	R.O.B.	106
11-13	Captain Falcon	104
11-13	Link	104
11-13	Yoshi	104
14	Ryu	103
15-16	Shulk	102
15-16	Megaman	102
17-20	Mii Swordfighter	100
17-20	Mii Brawler	100
17-20	Mii Gunner	100
17-20	Cloud	100
21	Lucario	99
MIDDLEWEIGHT
22-24	Corrin	98
22-24	Mario	98
22-24	Dr. Mario	98
25-26	Villager	97
25-26	Luigi	97
27-29	Wii Fit Trainer	96
27-29	Pit	96
27-29	Dark Pit	96
30-32	Robin	95
30-32	Roy	95
30-32	Pac-Man	95
33-36	Greninja	94
33-36	Sonic	94
33-36	Ness	94
33-36	Lucas	94
37-38	Toon Link	93
37-38	Diddy Kong	93
39-40	Palutena	91
39-40	Duck Hunt	91
41-42	Marth	90
41-42	Lucina	90
43	Peach	89
FEATHERWEIGHT
44	Zelda	85
45	Bayonetta	84
46-47	Falco	82
46-47	Little Mac	82
48	Sheik	81
49-50	Zero Suit Samus	80
49-50	Meta Knight	80
51-54	Fox	79
51-54	Pikachu	79
51-54	Olimar	79
51-54	Kirby	79
55	Rosalina & Luma	77
56	Mr. Game & Watch	75
BALLOONWEIGHT
57	Mewtwo	74
58	Jigglypuff	68

Hope this helped!
– parson

[1.1.6] BayoNERFa.

The new 1.1.6 patch is now live! The only thing that was touched in this patch, apart from some small stage changes, was Bayonetta. The following information is extracted directly from the Smashboards 1.1.6 Official Patch Discussion Thread, so some of the abbreviations and acronyms may not make sense, but I’ll do my best to explain them.

• Dtilt
  • Hitbox sizes 3.5 -> 2.8

• Fair
  • Hit 1 damage 3.8% -> 3%
  • Hit 2 damage 2.8% -> 2.2%
  • Hit 3 KBG (Knockback Growth) 82 -> 68, x1.2 frame speed multiplier added to frame 29 (presumably means 1frame later autocancel/2frame later FAF, but these don’t always translate to ingame as expected)
• Dair landing
  • KBG 140 -> 135
• Afterburner Kick (Side-B)
  • All hitboxes: SDI multiplier 1 -> 2 (Much easier to SDI out!)
  • Early hit KBG: 40 -> 50
  • Middle hit KBG: 30 -> 38
  • Late hit KBG 100 -> 112
• Afterburner Divekick (Downwards-Side-B)
  • Damage 8 -> 6.5
  • Angle 80° -> 60°
  • Hitbox size 6.5 -> 4.5
  • SDI multiplier 1 -> 2 (Much easier to SDI out!)
• Afterburner Divekick landing
  • SDI multiplier 1 -> 2
• Witch Twist:
  • All Hitboxes SDI Multiplier: 1 -> 2 (Much easier to SDI out!)
  • Early Middle Hit:
    • Upper Hitbox:
      • KBG: 100 -> 97
      • WKB: 160 -> 140
      • Hitbox Y Position: 24 -> 21 (Moves the hitbox upwards a little)
    • Both Hitbox Sizes: 8 -> 7
  • Middle Middle Hit:
    • Upper Hitbox Y Position: 24 -> 21
    • Both Hitbox Sizes: 8 -> 7
  • Late Middle Hit:
    • Upper Hitbox Y Position: 24 -> 21
    • Lower Hitbox WKB: 160 -> 135
    • Both Hitbox Sizes: 8 -> 7
  • Last Hit (First Use):
    • KBG: 105 -> 80
    • BKB: 50 -> 55
    • Hitbox Size: 9 -> 8.5
    • Hitbox Y Position: 20 -> 19
  • Last Hit (Second Use):
    • KBG: 30 -> 50
    • Hitbox Size: 9 -> 8.5
    • Hitbox Y Position: 20 -> 19

TL;DR:

• Dtilt’s hitbox is a little smaller.
• Fair does less damage, and the last hit has a little less knockback.
• Dair’s landing had its knockback reduced by a little.
• Afterburner Kick is easier to SDI out of, also has increased knockback, making it harder to follow-up after hitting with it.
• Downwards Afterburner Kick is easier to SDI out of, does less damage, the angle was changed slightly, and the hitbox size was decreased a bit.
• Witch Twist overall is much easier to SDI out of, with the hitbox sizes reduced, position moved, and the knockback growth is reduced on the Last hit for the first use, but it is increased for the second use.

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So what does this mean for Bayonetta? It’s hard to say. Bayonetta main Pink Fresh posted the following on Twitter:

LMFAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I cant wait to get my hands on this patch. So excited to lab. https://t.co/w5tcIfstOB

— Pink Fresh (@PinkFreshhh) May 19, 2016

This will change some combos (probably Witch Twist to Uair), and therefore negate some of the off-the-top finishes she could pull off before, but I have no doubt that dedicated Bayonetta mains will be able to make her almost as fearsome as before.

That’s all for now!

– parson

KO Throws

Characters are listed in alphabetical order! If there is a specific character you are looking for, use CTRL (Command on mac) + F and type their name. Each character’s weight is listed as well.

Throw percents were tested on Mario on Final Destination, so some heavier characters will survive later, as well as Uthrows may kill slightly later on maps with higher ceilings, such as Battlefield.

As always, will update with more information as I gather it!

Bayonetta: (84)

• Fthrow
  • 120% from the edge of the stage.
  • 200% from the middle.

Bowser: (130)

• Bthrow
  • 110% from the edge.
  • 170% from the middle.
• Fthrow
  • 110% from the edge.
  • 170% from the middle.

Bowser Jr: (115)

• Bthrow
  • 130% from the edge.
  • 195% from the middle.

Captain Falcon: (104)

• Bthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 190% from the middle.
• Fthrow
  • 140% from the edge.
  •  225% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 190%

Charizard: (116)

• Uthrow
  • This throw kills earlier if you use it below or on a platform.
  • 100% on the middle platform on Battlefield.
  • 120% for either of the side platforms.
  • 125% without any platforms on FD and 130% on BF.
• Fthrow
  • 120% from the edge.
• Bthrow
  • 130% from the edge.

Cloud: (100)

• Uthrow – 200%  (If you get a throw kill with Cloud you aren’t trying hard enough.)

Corrin: (98)

• Uthrow – 150%
• Dthrow – around the same as Uthrow, but few %’s later.

Dark Pit: (96)

• Fthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  •  180% from the middle.

Diddy Kong: (93)

• Bthrow
  • 130% from the edge.
  • 200% from the middle.
• Fthrow
  • 145% from the edge.
  • 215% from the middle.

Donkey Kong: (122)

• Fthrow
  • If DK does a forward throw, jumps offstage, followed by a down throw, this can kill you in the early 100s depending on weight and how far they go out so try to mash out as fast as you can and DI towards the stage if you don’t get out in time. Not to mention the Ding Dong combo, which can KO you at various late to high percents.
• Bthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 175% from the middle.

Dr. Mario: (98)

• Bthrow
  • 120% from the edge.
  • 180% from the middle.

Duck Hunt: (91)

• Fthrow – 185% from the edge
• Uthrow – 205%

Falco: (82)

• Bthrow
  • 125% from the edge (if laser hits).
  • Doesn’t kill from the middle of the stage until around 270% since Falco throws them too far for the laser to hit at which point up throw kills even without the laser hitting.
• Uthrow –  175% (if laser hits).

Fox: (79)

• Fthrow
  • 185% from the edge.
  • 265% from the middle.

Ganondorf: (113)

• Bthrow
  • 135% from the edge.
  • 195% from the middle.

Greninja: (94)

• Uthrow – 165%

Ike: (107)

• Dthrow – 180%

Jigglypuff: (68)

• Jigglypuff’s throws are the terrible for killing. They won’t kill even when the opponent is at 300%, best is up throw but it is still very bad.

King Dedede: (119)

• Fthrow
  • 150% from the edge.
  • 230% from the middle.
• Bthrow
  • 150% from the edge.
  • 190% from the middle.

Kirby: (79)

• Bthrow
  • 125% from the edge.
  • 175% from the middle.
• Uthrow
  • Like Charizard, Kirby kills earlier if this throw is used under or on a platform.
  • 125% on the middle platform on Battlefield
  • 140% for either of the side platforms.
  • 145% without any platforms on FD and 160% on BF.

Link: (104)

• Uthrow – 165%

Little Mac: (82)

• Bthrow
  • 135% from the edge.
  • 190% from the middle.

Lucario: (99)

• At 0% Lucario has practically nothing since this pokémon relies on aura so much, so no kill throws really work that well. Forward and back throws might kill, but while I was testing even at 220% throws didn’t kill so it might be a while before Lucario is killing anyone with a throw when he is at 0% damage. With 100% damage on Lucario, a back throw killed Mario at 175ish% from the edge of the stage which still isn’t anything to be proud of. Also Lucario’s pummel is so fast that when he is at 0% some of the hits do no damage.

Lucas: (94)

• Bthrow
  • 100% from the edge.
  • 165% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 145%
• Fthrow – 115% from the edge.

Lucina: (90)

• Uthrow – 170%

Luigi: (97)

• Bthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 175% from the middle.

Mario: (98)

• Bthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 175% from the middle.

Marth: (90)

• Uthrow – 170%

Mega Man: (102)

• Bthrow
  • 125% from the edge.
  • 190% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 205%

Meta Knight: (80)

• Bthrow
  • 140% from the edge.
  • 210% from the middle.
• Uthrow
  • Like Charizard and Kirby, it kills earlier if you use it below or on a platform
  • 150% on the middle platform on Battlefield
  • 170% for either of the side platforms.
  • 170% without any platforms on FD and 185% on BF.

Mewtwo: (74)

• Bthrow – 105% from the edge.
• Uthrow – 135%

All following data on Miis was taken with mid weight and mid height Miis.

• Mii Brawler (100)
  • Fthrow
    • 155% from the edge of the stage.

• Mii Gunner (100)
  • Uthrow
    • If the laser hits it kills at about 190%
  • Bthrow
    • 170% from the edge.

• Mii Swordfighter (100)
  • Bthrow
    • 160% from the edge.
    • 245% from the middle.

Mr. Game & Watch: (75)

• Dthrow – 266%
• Uthrow – 260%

Ness: (94)

• Bthrow a.k.a. the holy grail of all kill throws
  • 85% from the edge.
  • 120% from the middle.
  • 150% from opposite side of stage.

Olimar: (79)

• Blue Pikmin kill earliest, while other Pikmin kill around 230%.
• Bthrow – 140% from the edge (Blue Pikmin).
• Uthrow – 150% (Blue Pikmin).
• Fthrow – 155% from the edge (Blue Pikmin).

Pac-Man: (95)

• Bthrow
  • 125% from the edge.
  • 195% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 200%

Palutena: (91)

• Bthrow
  • 130% from the edge.
  • 200% from the middle.
• Uthrow  – 180%

Peach: (89)

• Bthrow
  • 120% from the edge.
  • 175% from the middle.
• Fthrow
  • 150% from the edge.
  • 215% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 200%

Pikachu: (79)

• Uthrow – 195%
• Bthrow – 170% from the edge.

Pit: (96)

• Fthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 180% from the middle.

R.O.B.: (106)

• Uthrow
  • Like Charizard, Meta Knight, and Kirby, R.O.B. comes back down with this throw, causeing it to kill earlier on or under platforms.
  • 155% on FD.
  • Battlefield side platforms at 145%
  • Smashville’s platform at 135%
  • Town & City’s sideways moving platforms at 130%
  • Dreamland’s side platforms at 140%
  • Lylat’s side platforms at 140%, and Lylat’s middle platform at 135%.
• Bthrow – 140% from the edge.

Robin: (95)

• Bthrow
  • 125% from the edge.
  • 185% from the middle.

Rosalina & Luma: (77)

• Bthrow – 140% from the edge.
• Fthrow  – 150% from the edge.
• Uthrow – 200%

Roy: (95)

• Uthrow – 175%

Ryu: (103)

• Dthrow – 190%
• Uthrow – 195%
• Bthrow  – 160% from the edge.

Samus: (108)

• Fthrow – 180% from the edge.
• Bthrow – 190% from the edge.
• Uthrow – 250%

Sheik: (81)

• Dthrow
  • Since this move got nerfed, it is no longer a 50/50 read that allows this move to kill you at high percents. It can still be done, but is harder to preform.
• KO Throws for Sheik are very bad, and don’t kill until extremely late. Kill them some other way instead.

Shulk: (102)

• When Shulk is in Buster Mode, his throws don’t send you as far so you can be the victim of a combo even in your late percents – although you won’t be killed as easily.
• When he is in Speed Mode he can follow up better off of F/Dthrow
• When in Jump Mode can follow up more easily off of Uthrow.
• Dthrow
  • 95% from the edge of the stage with Smash Monado.
  • 150% from the edge of the stage without Smash Monado.
  • 165% from the middle of the stage with Smash Monado.
• Fthrow
  • 115% from the edge of the stage with Smash Monado.
  • 155% from the edge of the stage without Smash Monado.
  • 185% from the middle of the stage with Smash Monado.
• Bthrow
  • 105% from the edge of the stage with Smash Monado.
  • 150% from the edge of the stage without Smash Monado.
  • 170% from the middle of the stage with Smash Monado.
• Uthrow
  • 225% with Smash Monado.

Sonic: (94)

• Bthrow
  • 135% from the edge of the stage.
  • 185% from the middle.
• Fthrow – 175% form the edge.
• Uthrow – 190%

Toon Link: (93)

• Bthrow
  • 110% from the edge.
  • 170% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 180%

Villager: (97)

• Bthrow
  • 110% from the edge.
  • 150% from the middle.

Wario: (107)

• Fthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 180% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 210%

Wii Fit Trainer: (96)

• Bthrow
  • 120% with deep breathing from the edge.
  • 140% without deep breathing from the edge.
• Fthrow
  • 130% with deep breathing from the edge.
  • 150% without deep breathing from the edge.
• Uthrow
  • 155% with deep breathing.
  • 185% without deep breathing.

Yoshi: (104)

• Bthrow – 205% from the edge.
• Fthrow – 210% from the edge.

Zelda: (85)

• Bthrow
  • 115% from the edge.
  • 185% from the middle.
• Uthrow – 210%

Zero Suit Samus: (80)

• Dthrow – At specific percents (data coming later) ZSS can Dthrow into Uair, Uair, UpB to net the kill.
• Fthrow – 200% from the edge.
• Uthrow – 225%

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That’s all for now!

– parson